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 Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: INCEPTION... |
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who wants to talk about it? heheheh... i love the movie... very strange but very real... 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I loved it! I thought it was SO good.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Seeing it on Tuesday, hopefully! |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:43 am Post subject: |
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i really miss u guys... law school is keeping me busy these past few months... anyhow, my sister and i debated on what really happened in the movie... but since kalsonberry hasn't watched it, i think it'll be nice if we'd wait for him...
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yah the ending of the movie really leaves you debating what happened.
I really liked the movie though and overall I think it was a good movie
At first I thought it was going to be stupid and refused to see it but then I went with some friends because they had free tickets (can't refuse a free movie!) and it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be haha.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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*spoilers*
I don't know...does everyone who says this is a good movie understand the movie? I mean, I definitely think it was a cool movie, but I don't really get it at all. Maybe I'll just have to read some plot summaries...but I'll post some questions here.
So, the basic idea of the movie is that they were trying to get Robert Fischer to change his mind about taking over his father's company, because...who is Cobb (Leonardo diCaprio)'s employer? Was it Saito? Why was Cobb trying to kill a really old version of Saito at the beginning and end of the movie?
Did Cobb and his team succeed in getting Robert Fischer to change his mind? I know there was something about Robert Fischer's father telling him he was "disappointed...that he tried", and then inside the safe there was a windmill? What was the significance of that? I guess this question isn't really answered...we just have to guess whether they succeed in changing Robert Fischer's mind?
I don't understand why Cobb's wife died...weren't they in dreams at that point and not in reality? How come she died when she jumped off the building, and didn't wake up and come back to life?
I don't understand Browning's role at all...who is he? Apparently he changes forms and he was that girl that stole money from Robert Fischer and left him a 6-digit phone number? What?!
How did Eames join their team again? I remember how everyone else did but not him.
I don't get the whole thing with the maze.
What was that whole part where Arthur (Joseph Gordon Levitt) went to the hotel room and tied everyone up in a bundle? Why is Robert Fischer's dad stuck in a random building in the middle of the mountains full of snow? Why did they go to the place where they fell off the bridge in the first place, and then the hotel? And who are all these people attacking them all the time? Fischer's subconscience? 
...maybe I'm just a bad movie-watcher.  |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I really need to see it again just to put the pieces together, but I'm fairly certain that I understood what happened.
In general, I didn't think that the plot of the movie was difficult to follow. However, the best part of the movie is that the end makes you question everything you thought you understood...which is why I need to see it again.
On my initial viewing, I think he has been asleep the whole time, and indeed is still dreaming at the end of the film. His wife was correct. When she jumped off the ledge, she woke up for real and she has been trying to kill him in the dreams to wake him up. That's why she's always showing up.
It would explain how so much of the details are unexplained (our dreams just make things happen...the details aren't important), and why we never really saw the beginning of the story.
like I said--I really need to see it again.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| kalsonberry wrote: |
So, the basic idea of the movie is that they were trying to get Robert Fischer to change his mind about taking over his father's company, because...who is Cobb (Leonardo diCaprio)'s employer? Was it Saito? |
Yes, it was Young Saito.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | Why was Cobb trying to kill a really old version of Saito at the beginning and end of the movie? |
The beginning of the movie threw us right into things and at the end of the movie we return to the opening scene where Leonardo's character is in the "purgatory" type place that people fall into if there is some sort of complication in the dream invasion process.
When Saito died in the dream he went to the purgatory place that Cobb and his wife had been in. He was trapped their for many years and became Old Saito. And Leonardo went to convince him he was still sleeping and needed to die to wake up.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | Did Cobb and his team succeed in getting Robert Fischer to change his mind? I know there was something about Robert Fischer's father telling him he was "disappointed...that he tried", and then inside the safe there was a windmill? What was the significance of that? I guess this question isn't really answered...we just have to guess whether they succeed in changing Robert Fischer's mind? |
It is assumed to have been successful and that is why Cobb was allowed access back into the USA (because Saito made the call and fulfilled his promise to Cobb for a successful job). BUT then the end makes us wonder if Cobb is awake or just dreaming that he was successful.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | I don't understand why Cobb's wife died...weren't they in dreams at that point and not in reality? How come she died when she jumped off the building, and didn't wake up and come back to life? |
They were awake supposedly. He had implanted some idea into her head (this is why he knew Inception was possible) and it totally backfired and she felt that they were still dreaming and that their world they were living in was not real and that they needed to kill themselves to get back to the life that they had created in that "purgatory" type dream place when in actuality they were awake. So she obviously died when she jumped off the building due to them being in reality and not being in a dream. Stupid crazy lady lol.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | I don't understand Browning's role at all...who is he? Apparently he changes forms and he was that girl that stole money from Robert Fischer and left him a 6-digit phone number? What?! |
This was actually EAMES. His role (I forget what they called it, ummm something like a Forger or something...) is to pretend to be someone else in the dreams that the person they are trying to obtain information from (Deception) knows. If they trust this person the info can be obtained very easily. His role in this Inception job was a bit more complicated and he was kinda using reverse psychology to help put this idea that the dude could be better building his own company.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | How did Eames join their team again? I remember how everyone else did but not him. |
Eames was recruited to be a Forger (see above). He had worked with Cobb in the past and was seen as someone who would be a reliable team member for this task. He also had previous experience with Inception.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | I don't get the whole thing with the maze. |
Basically the entire world they create is supposed to be like a "maze" that the person who they are deceiving (Deception or Inception) won't be able to find an end to and therefore they won't realize that they are dreaming.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | What was that whole part where Arthur (Joseph Gordon Levitt) went to the hotel room and tied everyone up in a bundle? |
He needed to drop them but gravity had been lost so he tied them up so they'd all drop together when he created gravity force in order to drop them out of that "level" of the dream.
| kalsonberry wrote: | | Why is Robert Fischer's dad stuck in a random building in the middle of the mountains full of snow? |
This is deep in Fischer's thoughts. He had to deal with his own subconcious and his own thoughts about his father's passing and be able to let go in order to be able to accept the idea that he could build a new, better company and not be a disappointment to his father (disappointed was the last words he heard from his father).
| kalsonberry wrote: | | Why did they go to the place where they fell off the bridge in the first place, and then the hotel? |
These were two different "levels" of the dream. They had to go to different levels to get deep enough into Fischer's subconcious to plant the idea into his mind.
[quote="kalsonberry"]And who are all these people attacking them all the time? Fischer's subconscience? [/quote
Yes.
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| squashed bananas wrote: | I really need to see it again just to put the pieces together, but I'm fairly certain that I understood what happened.
In general, I didn't think that the plot of the movie was difficult to follow. However, the best part of the movie is that the end makes you question everything you thought you understood...which is why I need to see it again.
On my initial viewing, I think he has been asleep the whole time, and indeed is still dreaming at the end of the film. His wife was correct. When she jumped off the ledge, she woke up for real and she has been trying to kill him in the dreams to wake him up. That's why she's always showing up.
It would explain how so much of the details are unexplained (our dreams just make things happen...the details aren't important), and why we never really saw the beginning of the story.
like I said--I really need to see it again. |
I agree with you. At the end of the movie, I already felt that the entire thing is just a dream... I thought I am alone with this one coz everybody's talking about Cobb's job (w/c is to get into the dreams of some people) and the "layers" of dreams as they say, but I still believe that everything was just a dream until the last part... the reason why it is so complicated, in my opinion, is that it's all just a dream... we all know that dreams, if we try to see each one of them in a chronological manner, would make it difficult for us to understand it completely if we focus too much on the "details."
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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I thought it was a bit long and parts of the movie could have been cut out (I'm talking to YOU action scenes in the snow. I couldn't even tell people apart besides Ellen Page's character.)
But besides the length I thought Inception was a decent movie. I was a little confused at times (it really isn't hard to confuse me ) but after reading some of these posts things seem a bit more clear.
And it seems obvious that this movie was made by the same dude who made the Dark Knight and Memento (both great, highly recommended flicks).
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